Friday, November 23, 2012

shenathayim yamim, Psalm 105- Study 10

shenathayim yamim, Psalm 105- Study 10

Hosea 6:2 KJV

After two days will he revive us: on the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.


THE BUTLER - Genesis 40:10 and on the vine were three branches. As soon as it budded, it blossomed, and its
clusters ripened into grapes. 11Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand, and I took the grapes,
squeezed them into Pharaoh’s cup and put the cup in his hand.”

THE BAKER - 17In the top basket were all kinds of baked goods for Pharaoh, but the birds were
eating them out of the basket on my head.”

three days the butler would be out of prison and restored to his position as chief
cup bearer to Pharaoh.

Yes two years in a prison but in three days there was restoration and resurrection from
the prison

The Butler offered the fruit from The Vine

Whereas the baker offered the labour of his own hands

but the birds were eating them out of the basket on my head.”

Yes the birds came and took the seed away

A story throughout history of the parable of the sower and the seed   

Now kets go back even further to the story of Jacob

When Jacob Meets Esau he bows down to him in

Genesis 33:3 He himself went on ahead and bowed down to the ground seven times as he
approached his brother.

Gill's Exposition

and bowed himself to the ground seven times; in a civil way, as was the manner in the
eastern countries towards great personages;


Now back to Joseph

Genesis 42:6 Now Joseph was the governor of the land, the one who sold grain to all its people. So when Joseph's brothers arrived, they bowed down to him with their faces to the ground

NOte in Proverbs the man who stores in bigger barns for his own benefit is quite different to the one who stores for the benefit of others, so it is not what you have but how you use what you have !

Proverbs 11:26 People curse the man who hoards grain, but blessing crowns him who is
willing to sell.

Now we reverse

Genesis 48:12 Then Joseph removed them from Israel's knees and bowed down with his
face to the ground.

This fulfilled the dream and was the part testing of perserverance and of the dreams that
Joseph had and the interpretations of them

Genesis 37


This fulfilled Josephs dream as follows

7We were binding sheaves of grain out in the field when suddenly my sheaf rose and stood
upright, while your sheaves gathered around mine and bowed down to it.”

THE BUTLER - Genesis 40:10 and on the vine were three branches. As soon as it budded, it blossomed, and its
clusters ripened into grapes. 11Pharaoh’s cup was in my hand, and I took the grapes,
squeezed them into Pharaoh’s cup and put the cup in his hand.”

RACHAEL - Looking into this as you go through the study, and had me thinking of:

John 15

The Vine and the Branches

1 “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

Seems to me the key is in remaining in Jesus. To leave is to die, to stay is to live.

All fruit produces seeds otherwise it wouldnt be classed a fruit, its a requirement.

So to remain in Him as He is in you, then that means action. Not just Jesus remaining in you, but you making an effort to remain in Jesus.

So to remain in Jesus in relation to seeds/fruit, would be to actively be looking at the fruits of the Holy Spirit and keeping up with our spiritual habits.

This isnt about self efforted works trying to get us into heaven, its about making a conscious and heart decision to turn to Jesus and yes if Jesus remains in you, then sometimes instead of 'looking to the heavens' looking to within yourself.

Rambling thoughts out loud here. I have more picked up on you discussing the seeds than the parable side of things i think

Job 33:14-17 Amplified Version "For God (does reveal His will; He) speaks not only once, but
more than once, even though men do not regard it. (One may hear God's voice) in a dream, in a
vision of the night, when deep sleep falls on men, while slumbering upon the bed."



Now firstly God speaks to us all ....all the time

Before we are Christians we may not recognise His voice and we may not reallise the "Visions of
the night"

Mostly God can speak to people through everyday things, in the heart or through the mind/Spirit

But at times He speaks through dreams or visions etc

Not all thoughts or Words that we have are from God and we test them as they test us

Note that this happened in Josephs case although no doubt he tested the Word, he knew it was
from God but how he must have wondered as he spent two years in solitude , forgotten and
alone in prison

Don't forget that although you might test a Word the Word may test You, as this is a living

Not all dreams are from God either, some are subconscious thoughts,fears, etc

Some may be the enemy and some merely day dreams

But when God speaks and if you are a Christian then you will know and understand even though it may take a while to work it out

No doubt God spoke to Joseph in more than dreams and he listened to God as he was locked
away in bleakness and darkness in the two years of the "Alienation" in a foreign land

What a great way to learn to listen to God ! more valuable than any gold even much fine gold

But no doubt the enemy would have tried to tell Joseph that God had forsaken him and that
he was on his own

No doubt the baker and the butler would have said many things that might have cast doubt and
uncertainty in the mind

Many things may crowd into our own thoughts during a day, voices from the "world"

Voices from those around us and the voice of the enemy

Through all of that we neeed to know the "Masters voice" and the "Shepherds Call" so that
we can distinguish between all the noise and the bustle

To know or to begin to understand "Gods Voice" we must be in a relationship with God



Joseph was not ahead of his time, Joseph was just a person like anyone else

But yes God was ahead of time , preparing the ground and making the rough ways smooth,
lowering the mountains and raising up the valleys


Genesis 41:5-7

5He fell asleep again and had a second dream: Seven heads of grain, healthy and good, were
growing on a single stalk. 6After them, seven other heads of grain sprouted—thin and scorched
by the east wind. 7The thin heads of grain swallowed up the seven healthy, full heads. Then
Pharaoh woke up; it had been a dream.

39Then Pharaoh said to Joseph, “Since God has made all this known to you, there is no one so
discerning and wise as you. 40You shall be in charge of my palace, and all my people are to
submit to your orders. Only with respect to the throne will I be greater than you.”

Genesis 41:41 So Pharaoh said to Joseph, “I hereby put you in charge of the whole land of

Genesis 41:48 NLT
During those years, Joseph gathered all the crops grown in Egypt and stored the grain from the
surrounding fields in the cities.

Genesis 41:56 When the famine had spread over the whole country, Joseph opened the storehouses and sold
grain to the Egyptians, for the famine was severe throughout Egypt. 57And all the countries
came to Egypt to buy grain from Joseph, because the famine was severe in all the world.



Now note:

This was not just Joesph having dreams here, although he had the first "Dreams"

We see the butler had a dreasm

The Baker had a dream

The King had a dream

And Joseph interpreted these dreams and the interpretations were given to Joseph by God



Remember also that the dreams may not have stopped simply because the bible mentions them
no more ! no indeed God Word goes on to focus on the story as the Holy Spirit wants us to
see the lessons learnt and to instruct us /teach and to gain from beaming in on the "Joseph Story"
and then going onto other things

So although the focus goes onto Moses after Genesis chapter fifty it does not mean that Josephs life
came to an end and neither does it mean that God stopped speaking to him or giving him dreams/
words/prophetic/interpretations of dreams or that Joseph suddenly stopped breathing

It simply means that we have stopped taking "snapshots" of a persons relationship with God and we have
moved onto the next lesson

2 Timothy 3:16

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in

In this is the "hidden bible" and the "secret Kingdom" where we have many things that are never mentioned
and many things that were never be added (as they may not have edified) as people are'nt always
100% Holy) so the Holy Spirit picks out those parts of a persons life where HE is working)

And so we know that many things were never included and we only see mere parts of a persons
life where the Holy Spirit speaks and intervenes and then adds these things to what we now
know as "The Bible"

But as we know the bible does not end or finish at Revelations

As one of us has a "book" and in that book is each day of our lifes

I wonder whether those times when the Holy Spirit intervenes and works in my life
are not the times when "He writes down in my book" which is Gods extended version of the



And so coming out of a prison Joseph found himself as the governor of egypt and although he
bowed to the King and also was bowed too


Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even
what he has will be taken from him.

Luke 12:20

"But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your life will be demanded from you.
Then who will get what you have prepared for yourself?'